科技日報視頻連線節目:華南理工大學研究團隊發現室溫長壓超導材料LK99的新轉機
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Hello everyone, this is Tech Daily's live video feed.
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In July this year, a team of researchers in South Korea claimed that:
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The discovery of the room temperature long pressure superconducting material LK99
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It has sparked an online debate.
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The debate in the academic world has not stopped.
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And there's a group that believes that this is a supernatural illusion.
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Recently published by Wuhan University of Technology.
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Preprint of this paper published in collaboration with the University of Electronics and Technology
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It seems to have given the LK99 a new twist.
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Is there a superconductor in LK99?
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Today we hired one of the authors of the paper.
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Professor Yang, Faculty of Physics and Photovoltaics, Wuhan University of Technology
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Professor Yang, how are you?
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How are you?
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Professor Yang, this year's superconducting heat in the room
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It's from the beginning of the year to the end of the year.
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Scientists claim to have made a breakthrough
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It was repeatedly withdrawn by the Politburo.
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So in this case,
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This paper we published
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Do you have any stress?
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Stress is good.
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It's more excitement.
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Because of this article?
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In fact, we've reported on one.
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It's a phenomenon that we've just discovered.
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This phenomenon is in our store of knowledge.
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He has also consulted with a number of experts.
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I've also done a lot of research.
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It's also been repeatedly searched in the literature.
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No such phenomenon has been found.
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It's a kind of memory effect of this kind of glass.
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So what?
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I think it's worth reporting on.
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Of course I know you will.
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This is the room temperature superconductor.
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The ups and downs of this year
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Everyone is suspected of faking it.
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Some are suspected of being kidnapped by the Politburo.
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So we published this article.
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It's not a question of whether or not he's going to be questioned.
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It's been on for days.
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That's good.
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Most of them are still encouraging us.
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I think this new phenomenon is interesting.
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It's worth a visit.
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Let's take a look.
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So what is the main reason?
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Mostly because of our research methods.
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It's probably not quite the same as the others.
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Because of superconductivity?
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The direct experimental means was to study his direct current resistance and direct current magnetization.
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This is called the zero resistance and the Meissner effect.
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And what about this technology that we're using now?
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The so-called low-tech microwaves are absorbing this technology.
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He's not for the supernatural.
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It's not enough.
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It is not a prerequisite.
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So what?
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In other words, we have the material.
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He's not a psychic.
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But he absorbs microwaves.
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There are also superconducting materials.
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But he doesn't absorb microwaves.
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So why are we still using this kind of technology?
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And that's mainly because we're still in the very early stages of studying this material.
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This is the art system we have.
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This synthetic process is very immature.
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So what?
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Even if he had this superconductor in him, it's very low in the active ingredient.
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So now you're just going to go straight to the conventional ways.
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In fact, it's hard to measure these things with a zero-resistance magnetometer.
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That's why.
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A very important reason why this article from South Korea has been repeatedly questioned since it came out.
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And this microwave technology that we're using.
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What is his greatest benefit?
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He is highly sensitive.
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His accuracy is very high.
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That's when his experimental data came out.
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The data itself cannot be questioned.
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Because his technology is very advanced.
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So all you have to do is say your explanation.
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He's the originator of this phenomenon.
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Is it caused by superconductivity?
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That's something we can discuss.
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But what about this?
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It's not about the data or the reality of the experiment itself.
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So this is the material that we're actually developing now in materials science.
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It's not enough, and it's not necessary.
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But what?
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This technology is still very useful.
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Because we actually know what systems are.
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He's going to be in the low field when the magnetic field is lower.
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He absorbs microwaves.
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Except for the superconductor.
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For example, two-dimensional electrons in soft ferrous materials or semiconductors absorb microwaves.
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But what?
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We can use our experiment to rule out some of the possible choices.
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Let's say I can turn the magnetic field to suppress the signal, or even make it disappear.
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Then this phenomenon proves that he must not be ferromagnetic.
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Because the definition of ferromagnetism is that your magnetic field amplifies this signal.
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Through an exclusion like ours?
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So the last one to reach the end is the one left.
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This could be the end result.
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So this is our exclusion method.
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That's why we're writing this article now and putting it online.
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Let's talk about it.
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We all benefit from it.
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Let's see.
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Right.
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Except that our knowledge is limited.
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Is there any other?
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It's a phenomenon that we don't know exists in the systems of some experimental materials.
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If someone comes up with a new idea
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We can go on to verify or falsify.
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I don't think there's any pressure.
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I thought it was science.
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It's about allowing yourself to succeed or fail.
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This is normal.
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As long as we have this data.
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The experimental data itself is real.
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Is repeatable
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It's also fun.
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I think that's enough.
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Thank you very much.
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Can you give us some more details?
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This is the LK99 that we tested.
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It has this superconductivity.
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Is there anything new to surprise us all?
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Superconductivity is actually an umbrella term for a number of strange phenomena including electromagnetic radiation and heat.
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So some of the ways that we see superconductivity as a confirmation of superconductivity.
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Let's say this four-electrode amplifier measures the voltage.
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Right.
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This is called zero resistance.
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Or you could use the VSM, which is the vibration sample, in the magnetic field to measure its anti-magnetism.
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This is called the Meissner effect.
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But other than that?
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There are other ways of measuring it.
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So let's say that this is a variation of the equation of a ferromagnetic
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Or measure the Josephson effect of this superconducting inhibition.
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Or with this scanning tunneling microscope.
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Or the photon spectrum can be used to measure its superconductivity, and so on.
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Of course, microwaves are a measurement.
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In the actual measurement
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All of the above ways
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There's no way to go through one of them alone.
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You can say with certainty that a material is a superconductor.
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So if you measure zero resistance or you measure mesner.
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In fact, even if this data alone is not enough.
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We usually want to be sure about a system.
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It's a super material system that is superconductive.
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We need at least two of the above experiments.
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You can't cross-check to tell you that this material is a superconducting system.
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Otherwise, it's easy to become contaminated.
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So what we have now is a technology that only uses microwaves.
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All that can be said is that there may be some superconductivity in it.
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Why?
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Because we found a very peculiar memory effect.
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What about the memory effect?
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It's brought to you by glass beads.
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So what does this glass mean?
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It means that it's exerting this effect by adding magnetic fields and microwaves from different directions.
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This material itself, it's going to remember this microwave effect on it.
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And then what?
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It's going to last for an hour.
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A day as a unit
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What if, as an analogy,
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You can imagine.
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It's like a microwave.
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You're heating a bowl.
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You dropped it.
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Put it out there for a day.
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It's cooling down.
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A phenomenon like this.
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What about a glass jar like this?
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In our condensed matter physics,
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There are two main types.
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One of them is spinning glass.
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One type is what we call superconducting spiral glass.
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What we're doing now is actually changing the size of the magnetic field by changing the direction of the magnetic field.
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And this frequency of this magnetic field, and so on.
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Some experiments like this to test.
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Confirmed it's not from the spinning glass.
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So what's left is very likely this superconducting spiral glass.
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Of course, that's just one of the most likely explanations that we have right now.
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The most likely of all explanations.
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Of course you said there were no other possibilities.
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Of course, this material system is complex.
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So this is to see if a system is caused by some physical mechanism.
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It's also a matter of repeated experimentation.
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That's what we're going to do after we post this article.
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And then we're going to go down and we're going to do a very important point.
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So what do we do now?
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In fact, one of the important purposes is to use it as a screening tool, an early screening tool.
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It's that we've made so many samples.
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Which one has a signal, which one doesn't?
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In this way, we can see which of these possibilities exist.
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So, is the LK99's purity and its macroscopic size now feasible?
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Not yet.
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We now even think of it as superconductive.
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It's also very low in this component.
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It's about two or three hundred nanometers, give or take.
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It's a few orders of magnitude smaller than our hair.
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So very, very few.
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So one of our main goals right now is to make it big.
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Titanium
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And that's one of the biggest challenges of this technology.
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That's the biggest challenge in this synthetic craft.
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And that's why we use this microwave to filter.
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Because if you're this small,
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In fact, it's hard to measure it any other way.
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Because it's too small.
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It's not like other sensitivities.
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Only microwave sensitivity can meet this requirement.
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What about the future?
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We already have some plans.
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Of course, we actually have some samples now.
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The size of this sample is slightly larger than the one in this report.
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Is there a future?
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Of course, we have to improve the level of this craft.
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Let's take it one step further.
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Like some of the other methods
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Some of them, including some of my friends, have given valuable suggestions.
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It's about helping us improve the craft.
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And now we're going to do it right away.
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A lot of the equipment is in place so we can continue.
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Good for you, Professor.
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So there's been this controversy ever since LK99 came into existence.
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So why do we choose to study it?
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First of all, it's a historical clue.
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The same chemicals are superconducting after the Nobel Prize.
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For a long time, we've all been in the same boat.
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It's all the elements of a desperate struggle.
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It is possible to achieve higher superconducting temperatures.
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So this experiment with lead.
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It's actually an experiment that was done by a group in Eastern Europe at the time.
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In fact, some of the results were already there.
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But later for historical reasons.
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The project is over.
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So the Korean teacher of this LK99, this LK and these two.
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It was after I returned to Korea from studying in Eastern Europe.
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He's still working on it.
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So what?
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This same chemical is the most stellar material in a superconductor.
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It's also the most likely to achieve higher temperatures.
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This is a public acknowledgement.
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So this is using the same chemical to keep the temperature up.
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The temperature of the superconductor itself.
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This is a long-standing research topic in the field of superconductivity.
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Even without LK99
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And you're going to think about other ways to improve the same chemicals.
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So where are the LK99's bright spots?
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What's their main highlight?
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It's this copper replacing this lead atom.
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Because of the lead?
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It's very heavy, very heavy.
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The radius of an atom is very large.
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What about the copper?
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Is relatively small
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So what happens when you replace lead with copper?
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This material, it's going to get tighter.
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This internal pressure is going to be greater.
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So, what about theoretically?
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What if the pressure is greater?
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It's much easier to achieve this higher superconducting temperature.
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It's theoretically predicted.
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What about me?
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In fact, some other related research was done that year.
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So what I'm doing is I'm trying to figure out how to increase the distance between these molecules.
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The way we want, of course.
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It's through, say, a free base.
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It's a way of forming a free base layer and so on.
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We've also made some strong connections.
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So then I saw this article about LK99.
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It's one of the theories, one of the assumptions.
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I'm attracted to it.
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Because this is the model of it.
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It's actually a very new model.
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At least in my opinion, it's very interesting and new.
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So it's worth a try.
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So that's July and August of this year.
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What happened after their article went online?
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In many parts of the country,
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And the other thing about platinum is that it's a superconducting field.
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And I started to go into this field to do this research.
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Why?
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First of all, of course, it's simple.
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Because it's actually very cheap.
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Lead, zinc, copper and oxygen
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These are all regular elements.
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The raw materials are cheap.
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Secondly, what about the synthetic arts?
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It's actually pretty simple.
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It's better to burn an ordinary rabbit.
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There's no extra complicated craftsmanship.
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So for a typical materials lab,
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We can all do this.
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So it's very low cost.
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So from the beginning.
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A lot of people come in with an attitude of trying things out.
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So what happens when the trial is over?
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We burned the first samples and found them.
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I'm going to take a look at this.
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And what we find is all sorts of phenomena.
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Some say it's made of iron.
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Some say it's made of steel.
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Others say it's self-selected glass.
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Everything is there.
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And there are all sorts of conclusions to be drawn.
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This is very interesting.
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Why?
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It's because a piece of material makes sense.
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It should be fairly consistent with what you burn out.
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Right.
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It's the same recipe as yours.
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But the reality is that we're all very different.
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No one knows who is right.
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So what about our materials?
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In fact, they're very sensitive to diversity.
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It's just that there are things that can't be explained.
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These strange phenomena are not uncommon.
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The original curiosity was raised.
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It's for scientific research.
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There are some of the most primitive impulses
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It's full of curiosity about phenomena that nature can't explain.
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I just want to figure it out.
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So what?
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It's part of what we call the Replicator Alliance.
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It's just a matter of sticking with it and trying to make it bigger and clearer.
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So what now?
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This is basically the beginning of this phenomenon.
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From our current work.
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I think there's a pretty clear explanation for that.
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That's where the glass is.
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Glass is a variety.
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It's a state that doesn't have a length of this order.
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So what?
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Under different magnetic fields
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It has some strange properties at different temperatures.
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That makes perfect sense.
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So what?
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I think what you're asking is why did you choose it?
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I think maybe the biggest part of this curiosity is
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And that's what I'm talking about in terms of materials science.
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Our main concern is not that you burned a pot of ingredients.
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There's no sign of anything.
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Just the background noise.
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So this is the whiteboard.
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No, not at all.
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It's for the worst.
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If I can detect a signal, it'll come.
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We were happy.
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After all, we can fix it.
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And this phenomenon?
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It's the past we haven't seen.
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This is a new phenomenon.
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It doesn't matter.
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It's one of those things where you know what you're doing.
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So that's the main reason I think.
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And then there's Professor Wu.
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Why is this room temperature superconducting this region?
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The research is always a blast.
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Where is it?
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What's the problem?
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I think we can divide it into subjective and objective.
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Subjectively
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Of course it's because of this room temperature superconductor.
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It's a science after all.
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A holy grail of condensed maternal physics
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It's very influential.
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There's a lot to be gained.
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There must be a lot of people who want to.
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I'm not going to take the risk.
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Right.
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Doing something that's not so reliable.
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This is a subjective factor.
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So I'd like to think about the first half of this year.
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Bombing the system
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The second system.
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Now many people think it is.
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It's not very reliable.
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This one might have some issues.
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This is a subjective factor.
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What about the objective factor?
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That's right.
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Because of our nature.
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Substance with more elements
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The more structured it is.
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Diversity is more complicated
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Our regular elements are superconducting.
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Or these superconducting systems of binary compounds.
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Basically, we're finished.
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Most of them have been found.
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So what about this superconductivity study?
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The main target is the triad.
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Quaternary
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And then we're going to have even more elements of this combination.
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Its ceramic or its alloy
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So for some of these multi-component materials
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Our theoretical predictions are very ineffective.
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Because it's too complicated.
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Diversity is too complicated
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So what happens when the structure gets complicated?
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It's the same energy in this structure.
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These structures
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This would be a significant increase in the share of
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Previous studies have been superconductive.
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It's also cooler.
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Thousands or tens of thousands.
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So what happens at such low temperatures?
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Its different energies.
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Not even close.
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It's not particularly sensitive.
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Because of your humility.
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The low-energy structures are the ones that dominate.
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But what about indoor heating?
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Because it's going to increase this temperature.
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So in this structure of yours,
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It's not very stable.
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Those who are depressed.
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And it's not just a question of whether or not it's going to work.
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And these experiments that we're doing.
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It's not like it used to be.
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Our current experimental apparatus is too sensitive.
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It's very, very acute.
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Even if you only have a few dozen or a few hundred nanometers.
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It can also detect a signal.
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How about this?
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The benefit, of course, is that we can.
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In a small amount of this active ingredient,
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It's possible to find it.
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This could be the superconducting factor.
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But what?
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There are some downsides.
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It's not supposed to be superconducting.
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And that's what's bothering you.
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It's supposed to be rigid.
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Not stable
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It also interferes with your structure.
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So what?
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And that's why we're in this mess right now.
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Superconducting research.
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Its owl is actually more.
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And we have this one.
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From our experiment.
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I just said that.
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Because the glass itself is a solid piece of glass.
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It's supposed to be sensitive to this temperature.
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So you're also sensitive to its magnetic field.
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The direction of the magnetic field is what we measured.
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It's also influenced by it.
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So what?
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What we've done is
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This is a different kind of stability.
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In this measurement process,
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Some of the effects could be:
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It makes you think it's superconductive.
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Maybe it's not a superconductor.
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So what if this is it?
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It's possible that an owl was formed.
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I think that's the main reason.
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I'll talk to you later.
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What are your expectations for next year?
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That's right.
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What about us now?
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What about this experiment?
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Moving Forward
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So what's the goal now?
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There are mainly two.
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The first one?
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And that's what we're trying to do now.
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It's possible to make a suspended sample under a magnetic field.
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This one?
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Because we already had some samples.
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What about now?
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What happens after these samples are made?
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Let's take a closer look at its composition.
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Or its components come from
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Superconducting or Ferromagnetic
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That's one of our current goals.
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So what's next?
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Of course, to make it bigger.
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It's going to be as small as possible.
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Even on a larger scale.
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So what if this is it?
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So it's possible to measure this zero-resistance effect directly.
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Or the Meissner effect.
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Here are some of the things we're going to do right away.
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So what else is there?
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We ourselves have a greater advantage.
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It's in this direction, this application of this microwave.
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This material LK is this material.
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Its microwave response is very strong.
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Its signal is very strong.
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So he's going to have a lot of use cases for microwaves.
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For example, we've covered this in an earlier post.
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Can he use it in quantum computing?
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Wait a second.
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Some directions like that.
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You can even use it to make absorbent materials.
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Or some memory material to do this microwave.
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Memories and so on.
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Some of the applications are:
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What about next year?
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We'll also put in some time and effort.
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Some of the research to be done in this area
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Read more at TechDaily
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Looking forward to more videos.
華南理工大學物理與光電學院姚姚教授介紹他們的預印本論文,報導了他們對LK99超導材料的新發現,並回應了對室溫超導的質疑。
This video in Chinese was translated to English, 中文 on January 03, 2024, using Targum.video AI translation service.